<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231</id><updated>2012-02-20T02:14:24.593-08:00</updated><category term='hypergamy'/><category term='datingtraps'/><category term='fallacies'/><category term='women'/><category term='feminism'/><category term='mgtow'/><category term='red herrings'/><category term='manipulation'/><category term='divorce'/><category term='intro'/><category term='neogame'/><category term='videos'/><category term='commonsense'/><category term='brainwashing'/><category term='marriage'/><category term='youtube'/><category term='game'/><category term='aging'/><category term='infidelity'/><category term='economics'/><category term='malestagnation'/><category term='behavior'/><category term='shestate'/><category term='itsatrap'/><category term='skanks'/><category term='shaming tactics'/><category term='dating'/><category term='involuntary celibacy'/><category term='dworkin'/><category term='moralrelativism'/><category term='advicetowomen'/><category term='entitlement'/><title type='text'>Indomitable Thoughts' Thoughts</title><subtitle type='html'>A young adult view on men's issues.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>20</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-544303866755950846</id><published>2011-07-28T15:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-28T23:56:03.757-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='game'/><title type='text'>Roissy/Heartiste blog</title><content type='html'>&lt;s&gt;I tried to follow a link to &lt;a href="http://roissy.wordpress.com/"&gt;Roissy's blog&lt;/a&gt; a few minutes ago, but Wordpress says that the authors have deleted the blog. Is this a fluke or for real?&lt;/s&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Edit: He's at &lt;a href="http://heartiste.wordpress.com"&gt;heartiste.wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-544303866755950846?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/544303866755950846/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/07/roissyheartiste-deleted.html#comment-form' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/544303866755950846'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/544303866755950846'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/07/roissyheartiste-deleted.html' title='Roissy/Heartiste blog'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-2039110059711779914</id><published>2011-07-10T03:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-10T03:33:47.858-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='divorce'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='marriage'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='feminism'/><title type='text'>Marriage and Risks</title><content type='html'>Something that always bugged me about marriage is the risks posed to you by a woman who becomes unfaithful. In the past, woman's unfaithfulness was punished, either by social ostracization, economic concerns, or legal barriers such as needing to provide a reason for divorce. Nowadays, none of those barriers exist anymore. A woman is not shamed for infidelity, in fact, if her friends see it as something good (like, say, if I'm not being a good enough husband for whatever reason, like being tired out after a long day at work) then they'll support her cheating and employ scary levels or rationalization that will make you wonder if women have any sense of morality at all. She's not threatened economically, so there goes that incentive, and she can divorce for whatever reason (no-fault divorce). So she basically has carte blanche to ruin your life. Who would enter into such an agreement? A sucker, that's who.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As &lt;a href="http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/that-way-rationalization-lies/"&gt;Dalrock&lt;/a&gt; states,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;a man actually loses protection from cuckolding and is placed at a disadvantage regarding custody if he marries. The only potential benefit a man gains by marrying is the moral force the marriage vows hold on his wife.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And as there's no longer any real material incentive behind the "moral force," (or really any moral incentive as I explained above) it's a really shaky thing to base your life on. The only thing holding a woman back is if other women shame and ostracize her. Which is less likely to happen nowadays and even if it does, she can always shop for friends who will agree with her.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Women don't seem to understand this. They don't realize the potential life-destroying problems a man could suffer if the wife doesn't feel "satisfied" or "happy" in the relationship. It's totally unbalanced and totally unfair. Unrestrained female choice completely supported on the backs of men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Women seem to live in this fantasy world when it comes to marriage. They don't want to think about what'll happen if it goes bad, preferring to keep it all mysterious. I guess they don't really have an incentive to do so anymore.&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-2039110059711779914?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/2039110059711779914/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/07/marriage-and-risks.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/2039110059711779914'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/2039110059711779914'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/07/marriage-and-risks.html' title='Marriage and Risks'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-454805126158963335</id><published>2011-07-10T02:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-10T03:35:34.578-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='shestate'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='feminism'/><title type='text'>Marriage and the State</title><content type='html'>Elusive Wapiti recently made an an &lt;a href="http://www.the-spearhead.com/2011/07/08/marriage-no-longer-exists/#comment-100688"&gt;enlightening post&lt;/a&gt; about the state of marriage on The Spearhead:&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;“A contract that binds two people together, ostensibly for the purposes of raising a family.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A quibble: marriage as presently constituted is a three-way contract between a man, a woman, and the State.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A man is contracting with the State to support a woman, particularly if she has children, for decades, even if the woman decides to exit the contract.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is the state of modern marriage today. Which is why I find all this debate about homogamous marriage curious…it’s not like we don’t have polyandrous marriage already, so why the fuss?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The old Christian saying about not being able to "serve two masters" comes to mind. A woman can't serve both her husband and the state. It has to be one or the other. Feminism is all about making women choose the latter, as an astute poster on love-shy.com once pointed out.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don't know how to fix this, other than to revoke the state's dictatorial monopoly over marriage. Fat chance of that happening. Off the top of my head, the best compromise would seem to marry without getting a marriage license, but there are probably hidden legal traps when it comes to that as well. I know some states and many countries around the world are starting to make marriage-like co-habitation, where you are considered married if you cohabit with a woman for more than a certain period of time.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-454805126158963335?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/454805126158963335/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/07/marriage-and-state.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/454805126158963335'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/454805126158963335'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/07/marriage-and-state.html' title='Marriage and the State'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-8523767617403371345</id><published>2011-04-29T01:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-29T02:40:13.279-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='women'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='behavior'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dating'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='game'/><title type='text'>How to become more dominant and less controlling</title><content type='html'>I earlier talked about the difference between dominant and controlling behavior, and how people often misinterpret certain behaviors as "dominant" when in fact they come from a position of insecurity, or an attempt to desperately control things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A person who is in control, knows he is in control. He doesn't need to nitpick, or micromanage. He doesn't react negatively to criticisms, or show anger easily. He doesn't show extreme emotions very easily, instead being somewhat cheery and light-hearted. Insecure people, on the other hand, need to constantly assert their authority and jockey for status. They respond very negatively to criticism, and are generally irritable. Extreme emotions are easy to read on them. At the core, these guys don't have their shit together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's take a look at four insecure, or controlling behaviors that are fairly common:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The need to constantly be in control of a conversation, talking over others.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Visibly negative responses to any criticism whatsoever.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The need to say "me too" all the time about things, instead of not giving a shit.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The development of possessive oneitises.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;The need to constantly be in control of a conversation, talking over others.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first item is a common, and has a remarkable tendency to correlate with guys who lack dating success. Most of these guys are completely oblivious to what they are doing, but it's very off-putting. If people seem to respond strangely to you in social situations, check to see if you're letting them talk. Most people don't want to become friends with somebody who constantly needs to have the floor to himself. If you feel this doesn't describe you, then check to see if you do it in one-on-one conversations. You might be surprised at what you find.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How to solve this? Simply slow down and let the other person speak, but don't slow down so much that people think you're bored or uninterested. It takes some tweaking but eventually you'll get the hang of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you have the opposite problem, and don't know when to speak, well, don't just sit there like a wallflower, interject every now and then. It's best to survey the conversation and see what you can talk about, if anything. I know I've been in many conversations where I know little about the topic at hand, and it can be difficult, so this is easier said than done. In fact I'm still not 100% sure of how to deal with it. It's a topic for a future post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Visibly negative responses to any criticism whatsoever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second item is a common feature not only among men suffering from dating difficulties, but a good number of men today. The hallmark of a secure man is one who does not respond negatively to criticism. If the criticism is legitimate, he takes it to heart. OK, maybe his ego is bruised a bit, but he doesn't take it personally. If the criticism is completely illegitimate, he can just rebuff it and explain why. Becoming a put-together person involves habitually being able to take cannonballs and brush them off as if they were feathers. It requires learning, but it can be done. If people who are trying to mess with you can see that you're not visibly affected, they lose interest in messing with you. Often, they themselves are being controlling (dominant people wouldn't care) and are trying to control an even more desperately controlling person. Don't oblige them. Show them that you're not a good target.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The need to say "me too" all the time about things, instead of not giving a shit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The third item, or me-tooism, is a hallmark of attempting to desperately contain a situation. Say your clothing, or vehicle, or whatever is not up to snuff compared to others. What do you do? Well, you can react negatively and become a socially avoidant recluse. Or you can just not give a shit, and rebuff any attacks or snide provocations. As I said before, the people doing this stuff to you are people who suffer from controlling issues themselves. If you don't oblige them, you're doing a huge service to not only yourself, but any others who may end up in their wake. You truly have to not give a shit about what others think in order for this to work. Can you do it, 100% of the way? Probably not. But you have to build an "outer armor" or alligator skin that at least gives the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;appearance&lt;/span&gt; that you're not being affected by these attempts to insult you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;The development of possessive oneitises.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fourth item ties into dating. "Oneitis" is a term for limerence, or a nearly jihad-like fanaticism over some (usually unattainable) girl. I'm not 100% sure about the trajectory of this psychological phenomenon, but I believe that once you start obsessing over a girl, it's already too late, and you ruined your chance to be attractive to her. You've created this object in your mind that you fantasize over, like a fetish of sorts, and it makes you increasingly unable to realistically relate to the actual real girl on the ground.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think this ties in with the need to become firm enough inside to not develop such incredibly deep feelings for a girl. If you think about it, a oneitis is a controlling obsession, where you deathly fear not being able to have the girl in your dreams. It's happened countless times and led to suicides and worse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what's the general way to break controlling behavior and become more dominant, in control, and relaxed? I think the key is to not focus on one particular problem so much. If you have issues with being easily manipulated by others into feeling fearful, or angry, or embarrassed, or whatever, I think it is best to distract yourself with something else. Same with turning a girl into a fetish or desperately trying to keep up with other people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Someone once told me that if you can't directly solve a problem, try to ignore it, and distract yourself with other things. Don't become overly focused on making your point in a conversation-- say the core points that you need to; you don't need to get absolutely everything across. In the end, most of the conversation will be forgotten anyway, and it's likely less significant than it appears at the time being. If you suffer from a oneitis, then distract yourself from her-- talk to other girls, ask out other girls, even if you massively screw up and fail. The experiences you get doing that will likely take your mind off her.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Distract, distract, distract, while paying attention to areas where you could improve-- and you'll probably desensitize yourself fairly quickly. It just takes time and will sting a bit. I hope this is better advice than the simplistic "just go out there and do it!" combined with pop-positivity that depresses people who see no way to start more than anything.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-8523767617403371345?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/8523767617403371345/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-become-more-dominant-and-less.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/8523767617403371345'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/8523767617403371345'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-become-more-dominant-and-less.html' title='How to become more dominant and less controlling'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-2756654196968635210</id><published>2011-04-26T23:29:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-26T23:32:47.094-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='videos'/><title type='text'>New video up</title><content type='html'>That's right, I finally recorded another video! More to come.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bJkfg17HZco" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-2756654196968635210?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/2756654196968635210/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/04/new-video-up.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/2756654196968635210'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/2756654196968635210'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/04/new-video-up.html' title='New video up'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/bJkfg17HZco/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-2709143855168344371</id><published>2011-04-20T14:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-20T14:58:11.560-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Pt. 2 of "Dominant vs. controlling behavior" is coming</title><content type='html'>I haven't forgotten about it. If you haven't yet read the first part, &lt;a href="http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/01/controlling-behavior-vs-dominant.html"&gt;take a gander&lt;/a&gt; and ruminate. I'm going to talk about what causes a guy to have issues with controlling behavior and how to fix it, incorporating some recent revelations I've had about game.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-2709143855168344371?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/2709143855168344371/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/04/pt-2-of-dominant-vs-controlling.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/2709143855168344371'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/2709143855168344371'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/04/pt-2-of-dominant-vs-controlling.html' title='Pt. 2 of &quot;Dominant vs. controlling behavior&quot; is coming'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-1404497101250595297</id><published>2011-04-20T12:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-20T13:23:58.450-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dating'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='brainwashing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='involuntary celibacy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='shestate'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hypergamy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='malestagnation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='feminism'/><title type='text'>Feminism and the fuel that it runs on</title><content type='html'>Feminism is all about freeing women from men and giving them as many choices as possible. Seemingly absent, however, is an analysis on how these choices affect men. For instance, take the example of the single feminist career woman who remains single and doesn't settle down until late in life, if ever. The gender ratio is very nearly 1:1; nature has made sure of it. This means that for every woman who is single and not in a relationship, one guy is forced to be alone, regardless of whether he wants to be alone or not. It may be a good guy, it may be a bad guy, but numerically, some guy has to eat the shit sandwich of not having a woman available to him if a woman refuses to date or decides to chase after a small number of high status men along with many other women at the expense of average men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When feminism liberated women from the expectation that they should settle down with a guy when fairly young, it necessarily created involuntary celibate men. Of course, a large number of these men will find a woman later on in life, but that is only because the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;women&lt;/span&gt; are deciding to settle down. The choice has been completely ripped away from men. Many men are suffering as incels in their late teens and possibly during their entire 20s because of this, a time when they are arguably the most sensitive to adversity and need companionship the most. (As an aside, this could be partly to explain for the meteoric rise of suicide among young adult men post-feminism.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Feminists, and sadly nearly all women, seem to fail to understand this. It's not fair to men that women get to satisfy their urges, while men are completely left alone with no choice at all. It's not even being left to fend for themselves in an unbalanced system; it's being completely shut off from the market.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what's the response that women say to men suffering from this? "You'll find someone someday," "be patient," "look at the good sides in life," etc. They're basically expecting men to be ascetic monks with no companionship or sex needs for years, even decades, while women are allowed to freely do whatever they want. Whatever happened to the concept of ones freedom ending where the others begins?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now how could women justify this? Well, they could just be plain clueless as to its harmfulness. And in a lot of cases, that's exactly what's going on, especially since this has been going on for several decades and has plenty of cheerleaders from both sexes. But the original women who came up with this had to have known what was going on- or did they? I feel they just had a hatred of men and wanted to gain a leg up on them at whatever cost, and didn't think through the consequences. Sadly, they had (and still have) so much support that the ill effects have been completely swept under the rug. Even many men who have themselves been screwed over and forced into celibacy cheer for the system, incapable of putting the pieces together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it's complicated by the fact that not all men are screwed over by it equally, or even at all. Indeed, it serves men on the top of the totem pole very well, by giving them sexual access to women who would have previously been less willing, as they were already partnered with a man. Men on top are in power, and willingly support this, so it keeps proliferating. These guys could generally care less about whether the average man has to go through long periods of celibacy before he gets anything, or that they're throwing tons of men under the bus with the decisions they make, so the problem remains unsolved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, the problem is, when you screw people over, they tend to be less willing to work for the system. Even many manginas who still buy in to the system, but have gotten screwed over by it, don't put as much into it. How, you ask? Don't they enthusiastically support it? Well, it doesn't need to be a conscious thing. Sure, they've been brainwashed into thinking this system is forward-thinking and progressive, but deep down they have been hurt by it on some level, so they lack the motivation that reasonably well-rewarded men have. These guys tend to get less hard-charging jobs, tend to not innovate as much, and tend to not earn as much as well-motivated men. They tend to channel their resultant rage into an endless variety of ridiculous causes, wasting time and energy. Ultimately, this slows societal progress down to the point where another saner society is allowed to grow and either makes it insignificant, forcibly subjects it or destroys it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Feminists are basically eating the seed corn of society, and the behavior they espouse is ultimately the kiss of death if men don't wake up and resist it en masse.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-1404497101250595297?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/1404497101250595297/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/04/feminism-and-fuel-that-it-runs-on.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/1404497101250595297'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/1404497101250595297'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/04/feminism-and-fuel-that-it-runs-on.html' title='Feminism and the fuel that it runs on'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-3564491959084776970</id><published>2011-03-03T20:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-04T00:41:03.668-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='red herrings'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='shaming tactics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fallacies'/><title type='text'>Fallacious "you don't have it that bad" arguments</title><content type='html'>"You don't have it that bad" is one of the arguments used against dateless men that really irks me. I recently saw a discussion where someone raised the typical comparison to starving people. Typically implied (or like in this case, directly stated) is that the dateless man is just a crybaby who needs to get over himself. In other words, "man up!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a meaningless comparison, because it can be used to justify silencing any complaint that a person might have with the society that he or she is in. Anyone with a vested interest in the status quo can tell someone being marginalized by it to shut up because they don't know how good they have it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moreover, it's a strawman, as dateless men aren't saying that they have it as bad or worse than someone without limbs or food. Who invokes this argument? Usually someone who is losing the rhetorical battle and has to resort to emotional appeals to win people back. In a cinch, it works, with some sufferers erroneously buying into the premise and admitting that they maybe don't have it that bad. Of course, others see this red herring for what it is, and heated attacks then start flying left and right, legitimate discussion disintegrates, and sufferers end up even more self-loathing and frustrated than they were before. In short, they got trolled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This argument is nothing new, and its continued successful application is a testament to its effectiveness. For instance, it was often used on depressed people before depression was recognized as a psychiatric disorder that could be treated. It goes without saying that the results were often tragic. The same problem is happening now with those suffering from involuntary celibacy and love-shyness. They try to get help, and all people do is tell them to "man up" and that the problem is entirely their own. The sufferers never get a break and keep getting told by uncaring assholes that their problems don't really matter. What the people espousing this nonsense don't realize is that when you tell a person that a serious problem they suffer from does not matter, you're telling them that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;they&lt;/span&gt; don't matter. It doesn't take a genius to see why this doesn't end well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the end, this is a shaming tactic, and a deplorable one. Those using it should be treated with as much contempt as someone telling a suicidal person "jump!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Edited to add: The concept I'm talking about is known as &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;relative deprivation&lt;/span&gt; in sociology. There is an interesting &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_deprivation"&gt;Wikipedia article&lt;/a&gt; on it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;P.S. The follow-up to the "Controlling vs. Dominant Behavior" post is coming. Stay tuned!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-3564491959084776970?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/3564491959084776970/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/03/fallacious-you-dont-have-it-that-bad.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/3564491959084776970'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/3564491959084776970'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/03/fallacious-you-dont-have-it-that-bad.html' title='Fallacious &quot;you don&apos;t have it that bad&quot; arguments'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-5959060726754639400</id><published>2011-01-19T01:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-04-29T02:34:34.049-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='women'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='behavior'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dating'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='game'/><title type='text'>Controlling behavior vs. dominant behavior: An important subtlety</title><content type='html'>Women tend to be attracted to men who are dominant. You have probably heard of this an innumerable amount of times, especially if you've read game or pickup materials. Of course, there are plenty who dispute this, claiming that women really want a man who is equal, but in a good majority of stable cases, the man is the one in control.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How, then, does this arise, in a culture where men being dominant and controlling is frowned upon and seen as misogynistic? Are claims that men need to be dominant mythical, or is the myth in the desire for equality? How is it possible to be dominant when the laws are stacked against a man and the woman can leave him whenever she wants?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a complex issue, and there are many explanations for the questions I just raised, but suffice it to say that in many relationships where women are genuinely happy, the man is the dominant partner, whether the woman admits it or not. But how is that possible? Women say they don't want to be controlled-- they want to be equal, or even in the lead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What if the truth was that women don't want to be controlled, but they want to be dominated? There is a subtlety here that is missed on many men, especially those who are trying to recover from being overly submissive pushovers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Men who have never intrinsically known how to be dominant tend to try and control things in a way that comes off as insecure, instead of self-assured. They have a tendency to desperately try and contain things, or police women's behavior, and that doesn't come off as attractive. In fact, it comes off as petty, try-hard, and what women would call creepy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The basic problem is that in actively trying to restrain women from doing something, you turn them off. If you tell them to their face to not do something that they want to do, they'll treat you with contempt and ignore you at best. This is especially true when it comes to behaviors that are female-group-approved, whether harmful or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Women tend to think in groups. It's a totally different psychology from that of most men, who tend to arrive at conclusions independently, and maybe with a little input here and there from others. With women, the consensus of the group is everything, and there is little deviation. Women will submit themselves to group reasoning, even when the results are personally harmful to them. For instance, they will tend to remain in unproductive, unfulfilling relationships if the group mandates that they must be in that relationship due to the man being "approved" by the group.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some people call this form of groupthink the sisterhoood, and with good reason. Woe betide the man who crosses the female sisterhood-- he will be treated mercilessly and all manner of false, unfair rumors about him will spread through the grapevine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So when you criticize a woman for acting promiscuously, or drinking too much, or partying too much, and scorn her for it, you tend to get marked as someone who is trying to inhibit her freedom, or interfere with her fun. This gets you cast onto the junk heap of men, where you might as well not have any genitalia at all because you're blacklisted as someone who won't get laid, ever. I use the example of the girl who parties too much because I have real-world experience with it, but it applies to any female neurosis that is nurtured by this society, be it the defense of bizarre and crazy laws, consistently putting out to the wrong men, waiting till infertility to have children, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason why this criticism is rejected it because it is seen as an attempt to control female behavior, which women intrinsically don't like. They don't like being told they can't do this, can't do that, etc. To be sure, nobody likes being told that they can't do something they like doing, or should put a damper on it, but with women this is extreme. They will not - I repeat - &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;will not&lt;/span&gt; listen to a man who tells them that they can't do something, or need to reign in their behavior. Their detesting of such suggestions is part natural and part cultural -- a culture that says they can do anything and doesn't put brakes on their behavior, especially when said behavior is harmful to men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we can see clearly that women don't like being controlled. How, then, is it possible to get them to listen to anything? With all the freedoms and liberties they have, they can just tell guys to piss right off (though they rarely respond with such intensity, the message being sent is identical).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You now understand what is unattractive to women and what is guaranteed to NOT change their behavior. They hate being told what to do and will have none of it - call it a mixture of innate and cultural female belligerence.  But they &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;can&lt;/span&gt; be told what to do, and they &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;can&lt;/span&gt; be told to rein in their behavior. They can become normal, sane, and acceptable people. How?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By being exposed to dominant personality traits in men. These traits are less controlling, as they are charming. Male politicians have used this charm to swoon armies of female voters to their side. Of course, on the face of it, being charming doesn't sound like it is enough to convince a woman to change her mind. And it isn't. But it'll get your foot in many doors, doors that would otherwise be completely shut.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Women are by nature, emotional creatures. This is not to say that men aren't, but women are on a whole different level. The whole sisterhood thing is based on a bonding of female emotions, a subtle communication collective living in a drugged-out haze of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin#Actions_within_the_brain"&gt;oxytocin&lt;/a&gt;. It's the way women have bonded, communicated, and protected themselves since the caveman days, and penetrating it the right way is the key to getting women to side with you, both in the ideological sphere and the sexual sphere. If you align the female grapevine in your favor, you will have done something great in their eyes, and you will be loved, no matter what you do or have done. In fact, there are many examples of men committing horrific acts who are feverishly defended by women whose sisterhood grapevine they successfully penetrated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you can see, this is potentially dangerous, and can be used for nefarious means, which many manipulative, evil men have done in the past. But many good men have used it to their advantage as well, as it opens up access to previously inaccessible women. This gaming of the sisterhood grapevine probably goes all the way back to the stone age itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I mentioned, it's not enough to be charming. What else do you have to do? Well, the most effective strategy is to combine the charm with something logical, ideally something that panders to a female prejudice of some sort. I've read about one Men's Rights Activist who is using this technique to convince women to accept mandatory paternity testing. Many women are viscerally opposed to this, because they see (or instinctively feel) it as decreasing the amount of power a woman has regarding what man she chooses to sire her child. Of course, in a logical, ethical sense, this is bankrupt, as the married father should always be the biological father. Historically, however, women have gotten away with using one man for money, and getting what they see as more desirable genes for their progeny from the men who stimulate them most during their ovulation cycle (read: not the tamed, domesticated husband). Any attempt to sell women on mandatory paternity testing based on logic and ethics will fall flat, because women don't reason that way. Of course, some women will see through it and side with you, but not enough to have en-masse backing. Most women will see it as an attempt to control the excesses of their behavior and thus will resist it and vote against any change in the desired direction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what this MRA does is soothes the women, like a modern sort of Shaman. He treats them with good stories, and then launches into a polemic, throwing men under the bus mercilessly, condemning the epidemic of deadbeat dads who abandon the mothers of their children. He then says that the only way to combat this is to instate mandatory paternity testing so that these men can't run away from responsibility. This whips the crowd of women up into a frenzy,  and makes them fanatical supporters of mandatory paternity testing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, the truth is different. In most cases, the man is the one who is cuckolded by a woman who decided to get better genes elsewhere. But this MRA is selling what are really men's issues to women as women's issues to get women to support them and vote for them. Thanks to feminism, the sisterhood grapevine is sinisterly aligned against men, but as this MRA shows, it can be penetrated with the right mixture of charm and logic to get women to work for you instead of against you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it weird? Yes. Is it unfair? Who knows, it's the way nature is set up. If you want to get women on your side, you have to feed their prejudices in a way that works for you. Merely telling them what to do is seen as controlling and undesirable. Truth be told, women love being played around with like this. It's part of their being. And they hate men who can't do this to them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is why you see lots of men who are very unhappy with the cards that life has dealt them in places like the &lt;a href="http://love-shy.com/lsbb/"&gt;Love-shy.com forum&lt;/a&gt;. By and large, these men have great difficulties even getting women to go out on dates with them. This is in no doubt caused in part by an inability to behave in a dominant manner. Also, a lot of the legitimate criticism of female behavior seen on the forum is attacked by multitudes of outsiders as misogynistic and narrow minded. Why is this? Well, many of the attackers are men who are white knighting, who follow a different (but similar in some ways) psychology to women. But there are several women who have condemned it, and almost all of the female members have spoken against it in some way or another. A major reason why is - you guessed it - because these out-in-the-open, direct, logical criticisms of female behavior are seen as controlling, and not dominant. The other reason is of course the feminist control of the zeitgeist, but that's a topic for another post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those who want to become dominant but have difficulties doing so, I don't have a simple solution. In fact, I'm going to elaborate on what causes these difficulties in my next post, to try and flesh out what needs to be done if your personal psychology is game-naive and needs to be revamped. Personally, I tend to be the one whose buttons are pressed, instead of the one doing the pressing. This needs to change if I want to stop being walked all over and taken advantage of. And I am sure there are many Gen Y men who share my predicament.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, in conclusion...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Women HATE being told that they need to rein in their behavior, or that they can't do something. They especially despise non-dominant men who try to control their behavior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Women LOVE being told that they can do anything, and that they don't need to answer to anybody. They love men who play to their prejudices-- a loophole that can be used to get them to do your bidding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Men who can convert their controlling behavior into dominant behavior stand to gain largely in the interpersonal and sexual arena.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Figuring out a way to turn an insecure, controlling personality into a dominant personality is of key importance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-5959060726754639400?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/5959060726754639400/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/01/controlling-behavior-vs-dominant.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/5959060726754639400'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/5959060726754639400'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/01/controlling-behavior-vs-dominant.html' title='Controlling behavior vs. dominant behavior: An important subtlety'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-7764723947160559476</id><published>2011-01-03T14:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-03T14:46:54.657-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Thoughts on partying, etc.</title><content type='html'>Why do people get so drunk on new years? I've been thinking about this on and off. It seems like everyone is just using it as an excuse for debauchery. I guess people are off work and so they use it for that, but it just seems so trite to me. Celebrations. Why do people celebrate an arbitrary point in the year? I guess it's something to do. Meh, 2011.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-7764723947160559476?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/7764723947160559476/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/01/thoughts-on-partying-etc.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/7764723947160559476'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/7764723947160559476'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/01/thoughts-on-partying-etc.html' title='Thoughts on partying, etc.'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-6523416564271689254</id><published>2010-12-28T01:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-29T04:16:43.726-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='economics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='commonsense'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='malestagnation'/><title type='text'>Blue-collar men: Criminal underclass or wasted resource?</title><content type='html'>This is my take on the whole outsourcing of blue collar work and what it's doing to America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, so you take a guy's job away, and ship it to China or something. This guy has a relatively low IQ, and can't or won't go to college and get a degree. What is he gonna do? I've applied for jobs with less than a college education myself, and it's not easy to get employed. And the stuff you can reasonably expect to get employed in is on the level of 7-11 or Arby's. Making $9 or $10 an hour, maybe $12 an hour, tops. If I was a blue-collar guy I'd say fuck this, and turn to a life of crime.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You have a situation where guys aimlessly drift through life, easily captivated by extremism (gangs, terrorism, etc.) and not really contributing to society. These guys wax and wane, going into prison, and then coming right back out and doing the same things they did before. So what you see is someone being a cost to society either as a menace, or  a prisoner, instead of producing widgets or doing labor to support society and genuinely be a part of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The current solution to this problem seems to be the band-aid approach of giving these guys draconian prison sentences. That way they stay in prison, instead of being a menace. But these guys are still a net drain on society, instead of being productive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lots of people from the conservative side will say that these people are animals and really need to be locked up. Are they really sure about that? I'm sure a good percentage are animals that need to be behind bars no matter what, but every single last one of them? It sounds a little hyperbolic to me. And if you take this at face value, and assume that they're all animals, then why is society creating so many animals?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe that if gainful employment, not jack-in-the-box employment, is reasonably attainable to someone without a college degree, then a lot of the social problems you see in ghettoes and among the poor underclass will disappear. These people turn to crime because they see no way out, and they're often correct. What's a guy who's not smart enough for college to do? People have TV, they see what middle class lifestyle is about. They don't want to live in slummy conditions making $10 an hour for the rest of their life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the people who are outsourcing the country need to be dropped into a ghetto by helicopter and forced to live there while we rebuild the industrial economy. Stop assuming everyone is college ready and give these people a genuine way out of their problems.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-6523416564271689254?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/6523416564271689254/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2010/12/blue-collar-men-criminal-underclass-or.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/6523416564271689254'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/6523416564271689254'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2010/12/blue-collar-men-criminal-underclass-or.html' title='Blue-collar men: Criminal underclass or wasted resource?'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-4913310072350495714</id><published>2010-12-28T00:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-28T05:48:28.115-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='brainwashing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='shestate'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dworkin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='malestagnation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='game'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='feminism'/><title type='text'>Back to Blogging and Thoughts on "All Sex is Rape"</title><content type='html'>Well, after a long hiatus, I'm back. I'll be posting more frequently. There were several reasons why I stopped, including school and a forum I'm posting on needing help. But I've got a lot of stuff to discuss, to get out of my head and flesh out in words, and it can't really be discussed elsewhere. So... be prepared for a big dumping of thoughts!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've been posting on The Spearhead on and off. I am continuously amazed at the injustices that happen to men in the world, and how it indirectly causes women to lose respect as well, which is tragic. I don't harbor anger toward women in general, and am sad that this society is causing them to not really fulfill their potential. I feel bad for most women who seem to be swept up by society and all its ills, and then go on to inflict all their baggage on men who they could instead love. It's such a tragic waste and it's gotta affect them deep down. At the end of the day, they're unhappier than they were in the past, and the stats show it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speaking of happiness, I'm reminded of a Dworkin quote where she said that all heterosexual sex is rape. On the surface, it sounds just like the lunatic rantings of a person who hates sexuality, and that's what many people, especially conservatives, tend to classify it as. But that misses the bigger picture of what she was saying. Her claim was that since women couldn't work, or couldn't find an easy path to most jobs, they were forced to marry men, often men who they didn't really like or find attractive but had resources, and that this was really no different from being forced to have sex with a man at gunpoint.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This story sounds tragic, and a lot of people believed it, and that's what gave feminism its power. Now, a more careful analysis shows that this is likely not true, and more an issue of historical revisionism than anything else, but the fact that it seems like women were being oppressed by having a lifestyle imposed on them was enough to give feminism credibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So you fast-forward to today, and women can work. A woman who was a director for a government agency remarked in one of my classes how almost no women were there when she was in college, and now it's full of women. (I counted heads and the classroom was more than 60% women; my university is about 54% women overall.) Women can get into any career they want with little impediment, free of the supposed sexism and discrimination that prevented them from attaining such employment in the past.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, cool, let's run with that and take it at face value. I'm not sure about its extent because there were always lots of female nurses, and female MDs were not nonexistent either, as long ago as the 40s from an article I read. It probably stretched back much farther. The fact is that women working in an occupation was not uncommon in the past (think secretaries, typists, nurses, etc.), but let's just assume that all women were forced to stay home, married to a man they didn't like so they could support themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why, then, are they &lt;a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6395879.ece"&gt;less happy now than they were in supposedly more oppressive times?&lt;/a&gt;  If feminism's goal was to increase happiness by freeing women from the household, and that was the prime bottleneck on womens' happiness, then there should have been serious, significant gains in womens' happiness over the years. Has society gotten so much worse that women are less happy now despite gaining more claimed freedom? If that's the case we're in a serious bind. I don't think that's what's happening, though, because several other things happened during this time of supposed economic and social liberation that made things worse for men:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stagflation followed by a flatlining and net decrease of wages for men, while costs of goods continued to go up with inflation;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The continual erosion of a savory academic environment, resulting in male children getting drugged for "ADHD" (criminal, in my opinion) because they're boys who can't adapt to this environment. This makes me wonder: Was ADHD such a huge problem in the past? Were hyperactive boys making classrooms so unworkable that it required &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;drugging&lt;/span&gt; them with dopamine-stimulating compounds? Something is wrong with this picture. You never heard about this stuff going on in the past;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The continual erosion of blue-collar jobs that allow lower-IQ males to be reasonably prosperous in society instead of turning to a criminal lifestyle;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=""&gt;The blowing of problems like rape humongously out of proportion. Rape is a serious crime and needs to be treated as such, but in the current climate, all men are treated like rapists. Feminists have been caught red-handed fudging statistics, and several feminists have even been quoted as saying that all men are rapists. In fact, the Dworkin quote implies this. It's an insult to any man, really, but when taught to young boys, it makes them ashamed of their sexuality, and they grow up to be overly-considerate man children who women don't consider sexually attractive;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=""&gt;Sexual harassment laws. I think no one has the right to unwanted sexual advances, but this is used and abused badly in our current culture. Honestly, I think that if men were respected more, and thought less as automatically guilty pigs, then sexual harassment laws wouldn't be such a problem, and people would get punished rightly for genuine sexual harassment. But in the current climate, conniving or hysterical women can take advantage of the laws (and corporate policies) to kick out or get revenge at men they don't like. If a man so much as looks at a woman the wrong way he can get in serious trouble. This is not right, and it makes men very fearful of and unattractive to women;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=""&gt;Sexual liberalization which results in a "game" culture. In a future post I'm going to argue how not everyone is college bound and society shouldn't just assume it, and that there should be ways for these people to be contributors to society. Likewise, "game" culture and casually picking up women just isn't in it for a lot of men. They don't like it, and they want a girl to commit to them, and they want a decent pool of available women for this purpose. Excluding men just because they don't have "game" or aren't super fashionable or are maybe a little awkward is a dead end. It's going to cause the same sorts of problems that excluding blue collar workers from anything above Arby's will cause;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=""&gt;Making marriage one false accusation away from total financial and psychological ruination for a man, taking the kids away and everything. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't feel comfortable with a woman having that level of power over me. Men have killed themselves over this. And you better believe men are eschewing marriage because of it. The response of governments around the world seems to be to make co-habitation similar to marriage, but all that's going to do is scare men away from cohabiting, and turn them into complete fuck-and-chuckers. It's just going to accelerate the decline into a total game culture, suffering from severe population under-replacement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;So this whole "patriarchy," whether it existed or not, is surely non-existent today, and the average man is not nor ever was a rapist. Maybe all this stuff has caused things to be worse for women, too. I don't know. But I do know that heaping the blame for all problems on men is sinister, especially now. I don't think that making it harder for men to find decent women, or making marriage and the workplace a booby-trap laden mess for them is going to make things any easier for women trying to find a partner. It just isn't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If things continue the way they do, it's going to be harder and harder for women to find decent men, as opposed to players who just want to jump in the sack with them. In fact, that's the reality of life for an increasing number of women. Marginalize men and this is what you get. If women want decent men, they should push to reverse this fuck-upedness, and refuse to participate in its propagation.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-4913310072350495714?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/4913310072350495714/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2010/12/back-to-blogging-and-thoughts-on-all.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/4913310072350495714'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/4913310072350495714'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2010/12/back-to-blogging-and-thoughts-on-all.html' title='Back to Blogging and Thoughts on &quot;All Sex is Rape&quot;'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-6191846720794226300</id><published>2009-11-12T02:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-12T03:01:19.224-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='women'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='brainwashing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='manipulation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='shestate'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='entitlement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='game'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='feminism'/><title type='text'>Female-centric societal ills: Litigation</title><content type='html'>Recently, some comments made on a Spearhead article talk about how women, by being litigious by nature, will overpower men when the government is strong enough and willing to do so in their favor. This got me thinking, and suddenly a light bulb went off. The US is known for having a very litigious society, and I always knew it myself and despised it, but the reason why the society was so litigious eluded me. It seemed to miff other people too, who would tend to just say there was a "litigious culture" and a "greed mentality." This is funny, I think. When people are unsure of why something is bad, they jump to some bogeyman like "capitalism" or "greed" to explain the societal ill, without digging deeper down. I think it's intellectual laziness, really.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What really seems to be happening is that a culture taken over by women is a litigious culture. That's why so much of our economy is being consumed in legal costs and why we have to have so many retarded warnings on things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You'll note the female tendency to defer to a stronger power, and use extreme language when they feel their inner mental sanctum is threatened. It's like they're a step away from suing you for your every last penny if you transgress them. This is also explains why the divorce courts have become so viciously anti-male. The litigious culture created them in their current incarnation, and of course they'll side with women.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Women also have a natural tendency for evasiveness, two-facedness and conniving, backstabbing behavior. It's built into their genes as a result of being physically weaker as a protection mechanism, so it can be a good thing, but uncontrolled (as in the current society) it can really get out of hand and do a lot of damage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This probably explains why women pursue law school so much versus other professional professions, aside from nursing. In a way, the professional schools of nursing and law exploit natural female behavior. Nursing exploits the good side of female behavior, while law exploits the bad side. I'd never want to be a defendant against a woman lawyer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, a female-centric culture, large amounts of women entering law school, the female tendency to create rules and laws to constrain people, and threaten people with a greater power when they feel "transgressed" is what has resulted in the legal monstrosity we see today.  It's literally eating the society alive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point I wonder how much other stuff people blame on capitalism that's really just creeping cultural Marxism rearing its ugly head, successfully pointing the fingers away from itself. This country's gonna implode if people don't wake up to what is really going on.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-6191846720794226300?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/6191846720794226300/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/11/female-centric-societal-ills-litigation.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/6191846720794226300'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/6191846720794226300'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/11/female-centric-societal-ills-litigation.html' title='Female-centric societal ills: Litigation'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-2079476767628315415</id><published>2009-10-19T07:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-19T08:56:03.512-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='shestate'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='malestagnation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='entitlement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='feminism'/><title type='text'>The rise (and inevitable fall) of feminism</title><content type='html'>This &lt;a href="http://mgtow.net/ipbforum/index.php?showtopic=18897"&gt;MGTOW.net piece&lt;/a&gt; focuses on British society, but it's pretty much the same in any feminist country. I've been to several feminist countries and all seem to be suffering from decay as the result of their welfare state coffers gradually being diminished to nothing by all the entitlement mania. I agree with the author that this state of affairs can't last forever. What will happen when no one wants to buy any more government bonds, and the gravy train runs out? The creditors will want to collect, that's what. The outcome of that could be ugly, especially if the men who end up drafted would rather not fight, as they have nothing to fight for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Feminists and their powerful male allies seem to have failed to have taken one thing into account; when someone is made redundant, they don't work any more. And us men have been declared redundant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is what is happening in British Society and, no doubt, in other Feminist infected nations. In Britain there are millions of young men who don't work, who aren't in full-time education, who do &lt;i&gt;fuck all&lt;/i&gt;, who basically don't have any interest or motive in contributing to society. And who can blame them? They've been declared redundant. They're not needed. Or, rather, they are needed, but only as wage-slaves to be taxed and, from time to time, as cannon-fodder to be fed to enemy cannons whilst the elite and their ho's relax. And even many guys (like me) who do work only work the bare minimum, avoid marriage and other traps to transfer what wealth we have to women, and who plot to emigrate. Or just vent our spleens on blogs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Britain, a single woman can nip to a sperm clinic, get a sample, get pregnant and then get on welfare, the idea of a father - or a step-father, or any man whatsoever - being part of a family now officially a 'sexist' idea and one to be rejected. In the workplace, women get priority in promotions and then get to all but choose their hours (usually very few) if/when they have kids. And if a guy works, he'll be taxed to buggery to pay for hordes of single mothers, effectively forcing him to pay for other men's offspring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Why bother?", sayeth us men in our almighty multitude. "Fuck this," we add.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there's a war, many men won't fight to save this country. I fucking won't. Why bother? Most of us men don't have any attachment or any investment in what this country has become. Given that you'll never hear a feminist cry for 'equality' when it comes to the draft, why the fuck would any man be willing to get his head blown off to protect some whining, ungrateful, abortion-happy women and the powerful men, all safe at home? Fuck that. We might as well join the invaders and wreck some stuff for laughs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The gravy train of feminism won't last long. What women call 'independence' requires a hell of a lot of funding; the single-mothers on benefits, the working mothers who barely work at all and consume taxes with their 'free' daycare, the Women's Shelters, the NHS-funded abortions for slags who can't keep their legs shut, the Ministry of Bloody Women, the endless non-jobs in the female-dominated civil-service...it all needs paying for through taxes. Taxes predominantly paid for by men, who increasingly shrink from the work-force thinking; 'Why bother?'&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-2079476767628315415?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/2079476767628315415/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/10/rise-and-inevitable-fall-of-feminism.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/2079476767628315415'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/2079476767628315415'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/10/rise-and-inevitable-fall-of-feminism.html' title='The rise (and inevitable fall) of feminism'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-342116490498460997</id><published>2009-10-12T21:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-12T21:41:25.333-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='women'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='brainwashing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='manipulation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mgtow'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='itsatrap'/><title type='text'>Purging Indoctrination</title><content type='html'>Over the past few months I've been noticing something about how attractive women appear. Maybe it's the internalization of an MGTOW belief set, but something has definitely changed. Oh, not in that way, they definitely turn me on, but a lot of the fantasy beliefs I used to have about women have been shattered. It's good in the sense that I crave affection a lot less, which is necessary when not being in a position to receive it, I think. Of course, the downside is occasional anger and deep-seated mistrust of various womens' motives, especially certain types of women.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I find myself paying attention to their negative attributes more, like how they talk, how they walk around, etc. Little imperfections here and there in the body, etc. Stuff that I used to overlook or try to cover up. What's going on I think is the "de-Disneyification" of my view of women. Disney movies had a horrible influence on me, as did media, society, and women of all stripes. No one told me that this was not real, that women are not this amazing all around.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday, I came across a post by a woman about how her boyfriend was so great, how no one could finish her sentences the way he could, how he brightened her day...in an almost Shakespearean way. It then hit me that this is what I used to crave in relationships, and why I became suicidally depressed due to being "deprived" of it. Now teenage emotions tend to be uncontrolled, but this notion of relationship fairy-tale land didn't really go away until it was nearly beaten out of me by cruel rejection after cruel rejection, being made fun of by women behind my back and being burned by women I thought I could trust.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The thing is, there's something insidious about it. It's like I was deliberately kept in the dark about the reality of relationships, with people making them seem like nirvana, especially women. And it's weird in the sense that people will tell you that relationships aren't all that, but it's almost a backhanded way of saying that they ARE all that. It's like "neener-neener, you can't have this, but don't worry it's not that great anyway... It's better than your situation, though, LOSER! We won't say that of course."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are many people out there with vested interests in keeping men deluded as all hell about this. Keeping men craving that golden goose until they realize they bought a dead duck. Sickening, really. That's why things like MGTOW and the Roissysphere are so important, in attacking and debunking these "pretty lies" as much as humanly possible. These lies are outright evil, and can do nothing but &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorelei"&gt;destroy men&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The debunking of these lies is a great relief. It's like a burden has been lifted from you. In fact, it feels a lot like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BsDMD_mDvvo/StQEUERHw4I/AAAAAAAAAAU/d-knunCqFCU/s1600-h/57272427.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 213px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BsDMD_mDvvo/StQEUERHw4I/AAAAAAAAAAU/d-knunCqFCU/s320/57272427.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391939396658774914" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think this image is iconic and representative of the MGTOW movement.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-342116490498460997?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/342116490498460997/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/10/indoctrination-purging.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/342116490498460997'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/342116490498460997'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/10/indoctrination-purging.html' title='Purging Indoctrination'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BsDMD_mDvvo/StQEUERHw4I/AAAAAAAAAAU/d-knunCqFCU/s72-c/57272427.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-4826417451206069604</id><published>2009-09-29T19:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-29T19:09:32.025-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='women'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='aging'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='commonsense'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='advicetowomen'/><title type='text'>Ladies, what's so hard about it?</title><content type='html'>What's so hard about finding a decent, stable, dependable guy in your 20s, marrying him, and keeping him for life? Why this need to have it all, which ends in having nothing? Don't you women see, your looks don't last forever. It's much harder for a guy to get turned on by you when you're 30, 40, etc. Aging is an irreversible process. Ever thought that if you get a stable guy who maybe doesn't have to so many options to commit while young and attractive, you'll form strong emotional bonds with him that will outlive your decline in attractiveness?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That supply of desirable men is not going to keep on going forever. It simply won't. Get a guy who is nice and stable now, instead of trying to get one years down the road when you HAVE to pick one because none of the desirable guys want you. Better choices can be made when options are abundant as opposed to nonexistent. Take advantage of that and don't go after guys who you know have tons of options themselves i.e. have a high likelihood of running off and leaving you hanging (in more ways than one). I'm just saying.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-4826417451206069604?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/4826417451206069604/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/09/ladies-whats-so-hard-about-it.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/4826417451206069604'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/4826417451206069604'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/09/ladies-whats-so-hard-about-it.html' title='Ladies, what&apos;s so hard about it?'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-6520251443835926179</id><published>2009-09-10T05:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-10T05:51:52.911-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='datingtraps'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='moralrelativism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='infidelity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='manipulation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hypergamy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='skanks'/><title type='text'>Behaviors to watch out for in women, part 2</title><content type='html'>A &lt;a href="http://mgtow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&amp;amp;action=display&amp;amp;thread=740"&gt;thread on the MGTOW boards&lt;/a&gt; discusses a classic case of cognitive dissonance in a woman who has cheated on her boyfriend, become impregnated with another man's child, and is now asking Yahoo Answers if she should not tell her boyfriend about it. There's several nuggets in here - rationalization of infidelity, the desire to cover up the truth (further cheating in my book), and horrid and ridiculous advice from responders as a microcosmic example of current society. Most important is the disparity in message between those who have a head screwed up by society and those with a clear moral compass. Messed up message: &lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(skank alert skank alert) &lt;/span&gt;"True love forgives." Head-screwed-on-right message: True love doesn't cheat! In fact, on numerous levels, cheating is a red flag - infidelity means the 'boyfriend' isn't seen as worthy mating material for &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy"&gt;whatever reason&lt;/a&gt;. If there's true love, it's certainly not coming from her side.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bottom line - once a woman's heart is somewhere else, it's somewhere else, and "forgiving" her transgressions will just end up with you raising her alpha spawn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cynically excellent MGTOWers suggest that this woman  was intentionally trying to do just that, keep her boyfriend oblivious until it is too late. Given the moral character of this woman (she's unsure if lying about CHEATING is a bad thing) it's not too far of a stretch. And the morally relativistic "answers" given show that society is more than willing to back up this twisted logic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thankfully, some of the answers contained sense, and the woman begrudgingly chose one (shown by her rating) as the best answer. Reality is clearly a tough pill for her to swallow, but she has to swallow it - for now. I don't trust her. She was essentially shamed into (tentatively) doing the right thing; it's certainly not her sense of conscience that did it. Given the opportunity, she would probably do something like this again, in another arena - if she thinks she can get away with it. My advice: Stay far away from any woman who shows signs of being like this.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-6520251443835926179?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/6520251443835926179/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/09/behaviors-to-watch-out-for-in-women_10.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/6520251443835926179'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/6520251443835926179'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/09/behaviors-to-watch-out-for-in-women_10.html' title='Behaviors to watch out for in women, part 2'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-6634768039676609897</id><published>2009-09-10T04:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-10T05:47:01.097-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='manipulation'/><title type='text'>Behaviors to watch out for in women, part 1</title><content type='html'>Chuck of "Gucci Little Piggy" has a &lt;a href="http://chuckross.blogspot.com/2009/09/weasel-word-tale.html"&gt;really good post&lt;/a&gt; on one very widespread method that modern women use to express unwarranted dissatisfaction. And they get away with it, looking like victims in the process. "Weasel words" - engineered language designed to provoke a desired response - describe the phenomenon perfectly. I've been at the receiving end of  this numerous times in my interactions with women. It was like they would use this evasive language to describe stuff that upset them, shifting blame away from them and condemning those they felt were at fault.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally, I think it's pathetic behavior. Guys inclined to see women as "poor oppressed womyn" will empathize with them when they employ this language, but me? It makes me scorn them. I have less and less patience for women who employ this tactic. In fact, I think it should be an automatic credibility reducer in any man's eyes. My advice: Don't let a woman ensnare you in vague emotional traps of sympathy! Keep a clear head free of female emotional manipulation at all times.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-6634768039676609897?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/6634768039676609897/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/09/behaviors-to-watch-out-for-in-women.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/6634768039676609897'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/6634768039676609897'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/09/behaviors-to-watch-out-for-in-women.html' title='Behaviors to watch out for in women, part 1'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-3764381649416554351</id><published>2009-08-29T09:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-29T09:41:56.294-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dating'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='neogame'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hypergamy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='game'/><title type='text'>Game en masse: The proper route?</title><content type='html'>On many men's blogs right now there seems to be quite a discussion of Game - the art of behaving in a way that is attractive to women sexually. It is said that Game is the only way out for men in today's society, if they don't want to be locked out of the dating game completely. I mostly agree with this assertion. If a man doesn't want to become permanently celibate or the slave of some domineering woman, he must use Game in order to attract even modestly attractive women. In today's society, women are taught early on that they should go for only the best men, and this goes hand in hand with their biological hypergamous nature. Men oblivious to this fact are sexually invisible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A lot of the debate on Game seems to center around whether it is ethical or not, often from a Christian conservative perspective. You can see that quite a lot of religious MRA's and MGTOWers are worried that a mass employment of Game will result in a morally degenerate death spiral. This sentiment is expressed even more so in the conservative media, but they have discredited themselves so I will not try to argue with them. I think this whole discussion of whether Game is moral or not misses the point - when someone is fighting for food, they don't ponder the philosophical ethicism of killing an animal. They simply can't afford to. Those of more ascetic persuasion will deprive themselves longer, but eventually they'll snap too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact is, female companionship is a biological need in men that cannot just be willed away by thoughts or moralistic idealism. Doubtless the need for it has been greatly exaggerated by the current culture, and this is what MGTOW is good at reducing, but the base biological need still exists. Game is a solution to a mounting problem. Have the conservatives come up with a better methodology that conforms to their moral standards? Many of them seem to be falling in the "conservative trap" of criticizing a new trend that they see as negative but not really offering a workable alternative. And telling men that "God says some men will remain single in life, that's just the way it is" is not a workable alternative. The men receiving such proclamations will go the David Deangelo route, or perhaps one even more pathological. He will certainly not go on a BETTER path.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not to say that worries about Game are unfounded. It can be used in a very immoral manner, to sexually conquer a large amount of women and leave them hanging. The female recepients of such immoral Game accumulate longer and longer strings of baggage until they're finally wailing about the lack of "good men" in some feminist magazine at age 35. At that point they have a 50/50 chance of picking up some equally desperate beta/omega man who has never before been blessed with female attention in his life and most likely doesn't know Game, or is one of the conservatives who thinks it's "immoral," and now ironically has to settle with a formerly promiscous woman (who may still end up cheating on him).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are two main problems I see with a Game-centric society from the male perspective: Men who cannot employ it will be left in the dust, and it appeases the current fairly unreasonable level of reptilian female sexual desires. Both are equally troubling. What will become of all the men with, say, Asperger's Syndrome or generalized social handicaps? What about men who just aren't that good at "Game?" Will they simply be thrown under the bus of the new paradigm? I left a comment on Novaseeker's expressing this concern, and one of the responders told me that they'll simply be run over. I certainly hope he or she is wrong and my worries are&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;unfounded. As for the second point, I worry that a mass employment of Game will simply appease female sexual desires even more. Women like being in a fantasy world, and being Gamed keeps them in it longer. What about when everyone employs this? Will it simply escalate female hypergamy to ridiculous levels? I can see many more than the obviously socially handicapped guys being thrown under the bus if this occurs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've spoken with several people about this, and they all seem to agree that Game is the only way out, and there is no serious alternative in today's dating culture. They do worry about the excesses though. As one said, teaching a guy Game with no moral guidelines is like giving a guy a gun and $15,000 and telling him to do whatever he wants, with no bounds on behavior. Some guys will use the gun and money responsibly, but most will rob people at gunpoint and spend all the money on weed and booze. That's the reason why today's dating market is so messed up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So while people who oppose Game from a chivalric point of view are simply dinosaurs, and those who oppose it from an ascetic-religious point of view are unrealistic, opposition to it is understandable. In order for Game to work it must have some sort of moral framework built around it, to prevent people from abusing it, much like teaching people fiscal responsibility instead of having them end up blowing all their money on powerball.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The moral framework that is built must be in tune with modern realities, and thus sustainable. This does not entail compromising on key moral issues, but it cannot be locked into a Victorian ethics framework. The clock only goes in one direction; there is no going back to "the good old days." I believe it is possible to teach men Game while adhering to moral principles. This includes not overly appeasing women or stroking their ego too much. Of course, this is the key area where such a neo-Game ideology can fail: Feminism's toxic effects on women and men could make a neo-Game culture unravel into even more hedonism than we have today. There's armies of manginas and bootlickers out there who will use "traitor Game" to sell out to women, and make things harder and harder for guys. Still others will revel in the power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, it has been joked that feminism was the biggest shit test ever, and men collectively failed it, and it's been downhill since then. This is why I have doubts about neo-Game as far as its ability to heal society. Ultimately, women must change, or this will just cause a bull market in hypergamy, regardless of the restrictions placed on male behavior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point, it's every man for himself, and the guys who aren't gettin' laid and ain't happy about it need to do something to avoid irrelevancy. Until a neo-Game paradigm permeates society, they need to learn Game, while still maintaining a moral compass. Those who can't engage in it? Well, we need to get them off the street and out of the way of the bus...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2010183655884194231-3764381649416554351?l=indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/feeds/3764381649416554351/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/08/game-en-masse-proper-route.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/3764381649416554351'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2010183655884194231/posts/default/3764381649416554351'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://indomitable-thoughts.blogspot.com/2009/08/game-en-masse-proper-route.html' title='Game en masse: The proper route?'/><author><name>Indomitable Thoughts (InT)</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02910776590749361106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2010183655884194231.post-7068353786670095535</id><published>2009-08-29T00:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-29T00:09:45.752-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='youtube'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='intro'/><title type='text'>Welcome</title><content type='html'>I will publish more on this blog in the time to come. 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